Info-Atari16 Digest Wednesday, August 23, 1989 Volume 89 : Issue 407 This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield Today's Topics: Xanth Demos awk and MT C-Shell Re: My last comments about ST multitasking re:multi-tasking Stadel 3.3 Re: C.E.K.A. GEM/VDI/Window programming Atari GEM/VDI programming Re: Latest version of PageStream? Towards a real, somewhat compatible multiTASKING TOS Re: Multitasking on the ST QUESTION ABOUT USING SPECTRE WITH COLOR MONITOR QUESTION ABOUT SEAGATE HARD DRIVE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 16 Aug 89 13:46:30 GMT From: brett@umd5.umd.edu (Brett Bourbin) Subject: Xanth Demos To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Does anyone know of an archive that has the sources to the old Xanth Park graphic demos? I noticed in one STart issue, they had an article about the Atari Fuji demo and said that source was available. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Aug 89 15:25:20 GMT From: ogccse!blake!bissiri@husc6.harvard.edu (Moja Fritzah) Subject: awk and MT C-Shell To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Has anybody gotten beyond the bus error running awk under MT C-Shell? Perhaps my 1 meg ST isn't enough... though I have over 360k+ remaining after the shell is installed. awk works fine in GULAM. -kevin bissiri@blake.acs.washington.edu ------------------------------ Date: 16 Aug 89 16:57:43 GMT From: cbmvax!daveh@rutgers.edu (Dave Haynie) Subject: Re: My last comments about ST multitasking To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu in article <8908160401.AA01009@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, 01659@AECLCR.BITNET (Greg Csullog) says: > Look, I can format floppies from within all my ST applications, But you have to either have the Format command available as a desk accessory (don't know if it's possible?), or each individual program must worry about including a disk format option. Certainly if that's important to the market, most will, but it's still something a program's author shouldn't have to worry about -- debugging the real application should occupy all their time. Plus, when I format a floppy, I can click back to my WordProcessor or Terminal or whatever else I have running, while the format takes place. > I can run a word processor, a spreadsheet and a painting program at the same > time and switch between them. But you can't have the word processor ask the data base to find you client files, extract some data, pass it to the spreadsheet, generate a color image, then pass that to the paint program for conversion to black and while, before being inserted into your word processor. You need several programs active for that kind of interaction. > BUT, when I want to crank out dbMAN reports from my databases (one is > almost 4 megabytes), I don't want to slow down my 68000 by using another > application at all. I want the dbMAN stuff out asap. DataBase stuff is often disk intensive. If my DB program is thumbing through 100 megs of database to prepare a report, I'll likely have lots of CPU time left for other stuff. -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Systems Engineering) "The Crew That Never Rests" uunet|pyramid|rutgers!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: D-DAVE H BIX: hazy Be careful what you wish for -- you just might get it ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 89 13:43 CDT To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu From: Gordon Meyer Subject: re:multi-tasking >How about dowloading a file to one drive, formatting a disk >in the other, and editing some text at the same time. I do exactly that on my ST already! Using SHADOW and Mystic Formatter (both by Double Click Software) it's a piece of cake. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 89 16:02:37 EDT From: Brian Holmes Subject: Stadel 3.3 To: Atari Newsgroup I just FTPed all the Stadel 3.3 files to terminator.cc.umich.edu They are in atari/new/stadel . I just thought I'd let everyone know they are there. Brian Holmes CSC Operating Systems & Communications SNAIL : Wayne State University, 5925 Woodward, Detroit MI 48202 U.S.A. BITNET : BHOLMES@WAYNEST1 INTERNET : Brian_Holmes@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU UUCP : UMIX|ITIVAX!WAYNE-MTS!BRIAN_HOLMES ------------------------------ Date: 16 Aug 89 20:41:48 GMT From: zodiac!weaver!rlee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Richard Lee) Subject: Re: C.E.K.A. To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu In article <114@bdt.UUCP> bms@bdt.UUCP (Vance Chin) writes: |[James McHugh] will tell some pretty TALL tales, one was that he was |doing some work for the National Security Agency and that he sold 500 |(yes 500) ST's to them as smart crypto terminals. Now _that's_ a good trick, since "Agency Standard Terminals" are IBM PC AT's and XT's. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Aug 89 11:34:36 GMT From: mcvax!ukc!axion!fulcrum!chrisl@uunet.uu.net (Chris Parkin Lilley) Subject: GEM/VDI/Window programming To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Oops, forgot to include my email address for replies. Here it is... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Parkin Lilley, CS1.2, | JANET: chrisl@uk.co.bt.fulcrum B.T. Fulcrum, | ARPA: chrisl@fulcrum.bt.co.uk Fordrough Lane, Bordesley Green, | chrisl@cat.uucp Birmingham B9 5LD, UK. | Phone: +44 21 771 2001 ext 5673 ------------------------------ Date: 15 Aug 89 11:28:45 GMT From: mcvax!ukc!axion!fulcrum!chrisl@uunet.uu.net (Chris Parkin Lilley) Subject: Atari GEM/VDI programming To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Hello AtariLand, I am about to embark on the writing of a fairly major piece of programming on a 1040 ST with Mark Williams C (I think). I am writing a windowing application which will also have to gather data from the ST serial port. Can anyone recommend a) a good introductory text on programming, particularly the serial interface and the windowing features, b) a good reference work for the same features Thanx in advance, Chris Parkin Lilley ------------------------------ Date: 15 Aug 89 20:40:53 GMT From: asuvax!hrc!gtephx!covertr@handies.ucar.edu (Richard E. Covert) Subject: Re: Latest version of PageStream? To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu In article <1605@cod.NOSC.MIL>, jensen@cod.NOSC.MIL (Layne K. Jensen) writes: > I have the version of PageStream that was released toward the end of 1988, > the first really "usable" version. (I don't have the disk with me at the > moment, so I can't give the numerical version number.) I use it occasionally, > but the more I do the more frustrated I become with the bugs. > > Can someone tell me the number of the latest version? I haven't received > any word from SoftLogik about availability, but I recently saw a message > on the network that made me think there may be a newer one. > > I've been giving SoftLogik the benefit of the doubt since the days of the > original Publishing Partner, but it's beginning to wear thin. If there has > been an upgrade sometime in the last six months or so, what are the terms? > A couple of things about Softlogik. First, SL is a very small company and they have always had a bad reputation when it comes to Publishing Partner or PageStream (PgS). The last,offically released, version of PgS was 1.52. SL is working on a version of PgS for the Amiga, but I don't know much about it. My feeling is that PgS for the ST is pretty much dead. I use Calamus, which has much better support. There are rumors of 'beta' versions, up to 1.59, being tested. In fact, I read in ST REPORT about a custmoer out in San Diego who got 1.59 by mistake. The folks at SL accussed him of piracy when he asked SL about it. Another, I read an article about SL. It seems that a disgruntled (to put it mildly (-( ) sent a mail bomb to SL after he was fired!! The SL people called the Police, who disarmed it. I have to admire those police officers! I have no idea why or who the former employee was. If you can get an account on GEnie you can get more info, and leave questions to SL. rec